couple more comments for Journey's End

[hafital]

-- I forgot to say how much I loved everyone in the TARDIS driving. Who says the actors need to be paid, they should have that large a team TARDIS all the time!!

-- I rather hope one of the outcomes of this series is 10/human!10/Donna stories, I don't care how the writer gets it to happen.

--Despite my OMG NO! reaction to last week's cliffhanger, I find myself somewhat sad to not have Eleven now. I'll get over it.

So, I can read my flist again, and what a relief! But of course, now I'm reading all these reaction posts and they're making me think re: Rose, Donna, and what the Doctor did. Oh, and also RTD vs. Moffat again.


-- Rose. I agree it would have been better for her to choose to return to the alt!universe. It was what I thought *should* happen. She did, however, make a choice, and that was a) to return in the first place and b) in a less clear, more conflicted way, she chose human!10 when she kissed him. Yes, she was manipulated by just about everyone, and I wish she hadn't been. I can't say I would have chosen this end for her, myself. Actually, I would have rathered her in her proper universe, kicking ass there rather than in the alt!world, but that was never going to happen. In the end, I loved her, and I'm not entirely convinced she wouldn't have chosen to go back to the Alt!world herself with human!10, if the choice had actually been up to her alone or even just put to her, and for that I'm very willing to lay at RTD's feet. Ten could have asked. (and also, except for pr0n purposes, I'm not sure Ten and human!Ten should be in the same universe, actually. Two Tens is more than any universe can handle for more than a bit at a time)

-- Donna. To put it simply, I love her more than I can textually render, and am incapable of even hating anything about her fate because it would require me to be angry, and I just can't be angry right now. All I can be is sad. Sad that she's not with Lee. Sad that her time with the Doctor is over. Sad that she can't remember how awesome she is and has to learn it all over again. And sad most of all that she (very probably; although never say never) will not be on DW again and I will miss her damn it. BUT, I have full faith that Donna Noble was indeed *changed* by her experiences, whether she remembers them or not, and I have no doubt she will be awesome in her own way, temp or no, married or not, living with her mother and granddad or not.

-- What the Doctor did to Donna. It sucked. He probably shouldn't have done it. I may never really forgive him. Whatever. I already didn't like what he did with River, never much liked how he blatantly manipulated Rose (and convenient that everyone hates Rose for that and not as much the Doctor), both as Nine (especially as Nine. Nine was worse with the manipulation, and if people defend it because he was needy I'll scream) and as Ten, didn't like how he messed up with Martha, and wasn't all that pleased with how he treated Mickey or Jack, and then there's Harriet Jones. Donna made him better. So, he can be a primo ass, and I still like the guy. Maybe that says more about me.

-- RTD vs Moffat. They're both imperfect. They both have issues that come blaring across the screen. I really hope Moffat turns out to be the bestest thing ever in the history of all things DW, but I'm not sure I can believe that yet. He has most definitely not won my trust, although I am looking forward to seeing what he does. I wasn't overjoyed that RTD was leaving, but now I do think it will be nice to get a different driver, not because I hate RTD now or anything (I can't hate that man, I can't even be all that disgruntled. He cemented my love with Vince Tyler, so. what can I say, I'm easy) but I do think we've seen all his tricks already, not to mention the issues, he has no more ponies in his bag. Time for new tricks, and new issues. hah. Although, I am glad for the specials, and there's nothing to stop him from writing eps, I suppose.

So, there. My thoughts. Not that my LJ is widely read by the DW fandom, and that's probably a good thing. hahah. And right now I'm very happy for the long break. Thank GOD.

ETA: yipe. sorry about the lj-cut. *slinks away*

Comments

[violetisblue.livejournal.com]

SJA is fantastic, IMO. I dragged my feet on watching it for the longest time but now I can't wait for S2.

"I really hope Moffat turns out to be the bestest thing ever in the history of all things DW, but I'm not sure I can believe that yet."

I'm of the camp going, "Well, at least his issues, tropes and annoyingly repetitive tics will be different than RTD's issues, tropes and annoying repetitive tics." I like his writing style a lot more but then, I already have a personal prejudice against grandiose arcs and in favor of "anthology"-style stand-alones (one reason I liked "Midnight" so much, speaking of RTD), and, you know, I think RTD has ridden this pony as far as it can go for the time being. As they say, time(y-wimey) will tell.

[hafital.livejournal.com]

I'm of the camp going, "Well, at least his issues, tropes and annoyingly repetitive tics will be different than RTD's issues, tropes and annoying repetitive tics."

nod nod. Yes, time for a new driver, pass the reigns on! haha.

I didn't mind the grandiose arcs, though, even as sloppy as they were. Or actually, what I loved about New Who's (occasinally very messy) plotting was that so much was woven throughout the entire series, and obviously thought out and planned as such. Sometimes it was more sucessful than other times, but it was still nice, different than US TV where the writers just make shit up as they go along. To me, who works in this industry, it's like majorly revolutionary. *g* I boggle in the general direction of the BBC. I never had occasion to learn this before.

Is Moffat really more anthology-style? Or is that just conjecture based on his previous episodes? I like anthology-style just fine, although preferably with some sort of narrative thread and character development.

[violetisblue.livejournal.com]

I have no idea what he'll end up doing with an entire season to play with, but I just like stand-alones better as a rule and purely coincidentally, all of his contributions thus far have been those sorts of "closed box" episodes that don't really engage with any wider plot arcs. He and Gareth Roberts are my two favorites purely as far as the writing is concerned, for the stand-alone aspect and the humor. As far as when he actually is running the whole show, though, I'm expecting plot arcs of some sort--whether seasonal or clustering more around the last few episodes--and not thirteen "closed boxes."

[hafital.livejournal.com]

SJA is fantastic, IMO. I dragged my feet on watching it for the longest time but now I can't wait for S2.

BTW, did you read what Liz Sladen said about possibly never being on DW again after this finale? I was like "noooo" and then thought of you and your Doctor/Sarah Jane comments, of which I'm totally on board with. Not that she physically needs to be on the show, or anything. hmrph.

[violetisblue.livejournal.com]

I did, and I went, "But...but...but!" Hell with it, they're still shippy as anything (in my head, anyway) and I still think he was giving Luke a few looks of, "Er, that's not mine, right? Because it can't be, right, Sarah? Er...Sarah...?"